Just Enough to Be Dangerous: The Intersection of Family Law and the Legal System

4.25 Law and Legal and 1.0 Ethics CLE Credits | WSBA Activity ID #1024710

Chaired by family law practitioner Rosemarie LeMoine, speakers include Judge Lori-Kay Smith of the King County Unified Family Court and Anne Siedel, former WSBA Disciplinary Counsel; Ann Carey and Linda Lillevik; Marguerite Smith; and Gloria Nagler and Michael Sperry. This program supports practitioners who know some of areas that family law by necessity touches but could use more information. Examples include: detailing the differences in family law motions practice and local rules; addressing the ethics of being a counselor and advisor to people in the painful position of ending a marriage and reconstructing a family relationship.


Recorded:  11/09/2016
Credits:  4.25 Law and Legal and 1.0 Ethics CLE | WSBA Activity ID #1024710
Length: 5 hours, 17 minutes

Featured Speakers:
Rosemarie LeMoine, Ann Carey, Linda Lillevik, Gloria Nagler, Anne Seidel, Judge Lori Smith, Margeurite Smith, Michael Sperry

The danger of not knowing what you don't know is not limited to clients. Legal practitioners must understand the intersection of family law with all other areas of the legal system, especially where financial and criminal matters are concerned, and must continually refresh their knowledge of the basics of family law practice, both inside the courtroom and out.

This program delves into the intersection of family law with criminal practice, bankruptcy and corporate law; parse out the differences in family law motions practice and local rules; and address the ethics of being a counselor and advisor to people in the painful position of ending a marriage and reconstructing a family relationship.


8:30-9 a.m.

Registration and Coffee Service

9-10 a.m.

Session 1 - Choosing the Correct Path When Multiple Petitions, Objections to Relocation and the UCCJEA Intersect

Speaker: Hon. Lori-Kay Smith, Chief Unified Family Court Judge, King County Superior Court

10-11 a.m.

Session 2: Business Assets

Issues around businesses assets and divorce; how to protect interests before and during divorce ; do's and don'ts of Property Settlement Agreements governing division of business assets; the risks of restraining orders on business assets; what happens to a business when an owner is restrained from disposing of any of those assets while a divorce is in progress.

Speaker: Marguerite Smith, Flexx Law P.S

11-11:15 a.m.


11:15-12:15 p.m.

Session 3: The Other Court - Where Divorce Meets Bankruptcy

Speakers: Gloria Nagler, Nagler Law Group P.S. and Michael Sperry, Nagler Law Group P.S.

12:15-1:15 p.m.

Lunch (on your own)

1:15-2:15 p.m

Session 4: Criminal Law

Issues such as when a family law client has a criminal case pending as well, communication between attorneys representing that client for different matters

Speakers: Anne Carey and Linda Lillevi, Carey & Lillevik PLLC

2:15-2:30 p.m.


2:30-3:30 p.m.

Session 5: Speed bumps on your Professional Path: Avoiding Ethical Collisions

Recent updates on ethical issues in family law and an exploration of hypotheticals for family law practitioners.

Speaker: Anne Siedel , Law Office of Anne I. Seidel

3:30-4 p.m.

Session 6 - Q & A with panel of speakers

Moderator: Rosemarie LeMoine

4 p.m.

Evaluations and Adjourn



Rosemarie LeMoine

Rosemarie graduated from St. Louis University School of Law in 1979, and came west to this wonderful city. She is a family law attorney, and has served as chair of the King County Bar's Family Law Section, a member of the King County Bar Association's Board of Trustees, and on other committees through the years. A favorite passion is enlisting other attorneys to help low income litigants with family law issues-thank you to everyone who has said yes, time and time again, to her pleas for help on the status conference or the 1 hour free program. In 1998, the King County Bar recognized her as the Pro Bono Attorney of the Year, and in 2000, the Washington State Bar gave her the Pro Bono Attorney award. Every June, she organizes the lawyers to march in PRIDE-a joyful celebration in our quest for equality for all. While I may have spoken up or asked, nothing I have done has been alone. Thank you to the lawyers-together, we have accomplished much!


Ann M. Carey

Ann Carey has devoted her career to advocating for youth and families in the juvenile justice system. She is known as a talented litigator and defender for the accused: both adult and juvenile. Ann has litigated hundreds of felony, misdemeanor, and dependency cases in King County and the State of Washington. In addition to her work in juvenile justice, Ann represents youth and families in school district cases. She is committed to the needs and interests of youth. Ann currently, serves as president of the Board of Directors for TeamChild, a nonprofit organization that provides civil legal services to court-involved youth.

Linda Lillevik

Linda Lillevik is highly regarded for her representation of children, parents, and foster parents in proceedings that involve dependency, at-risk youth, truancy, and child-in-need of services. She is respected for fighting successfully against inappropriate and overzealous state intervention in the lives of her clients and their families. In addition to her work in dependency and child welfare cases, she practices in all areas of family law, including divorce, parenting plans, child support, domestic partnership, adoption, and appeals. Linda has more than 20 years of courtroom experience in King County; she has earned her reputation as a passionate and effective attorney.

Gloria Z. Nagler

Gloria Z. Nagler is the managing shareholder in the law firm of Nagler Law Group P.S., where she practices with the able and amiable Michael Sperry. She has finished serving as Past Chair of the Creditor-Debtor Section's Executive Committee. Gloria was elected by her peers to be a Fellow in the American College of Bankruptcy, and was awarded the Sidney Volinn Award of Merit by her fellow bankruptcy lawyers in 2013.

Her creditor-debtor practice includes Chapter 11 business reorganizations, Chapter 13 and Chapter 7 work, and individual creditor representation in bankruptcy matters. Her practice especially emphasizes clients with tax issues, small businesses in distress, and clients caught in complex divorce situations. Gloria served for five years as the Plan Trustee in the Spokane Catholic Diocese bankruptcy case and found that work novel and interesting. During the Recession, NPR's "Morning Edition" featured parts of an interview with Gloria on bankruptcy in the current economy. Gloria clerked in the mid-1980's for the now retired Honorable Robert W. Skidmore, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge for the Western District of Washington at Tacoma. She received her B.A. with distinction from the University of California at Berkeley and her J.D. from the University of Washington.

Anne I. Seidel

Anne I. Seidel represents lawyers on legal ethics issues, bar grievances and disciplinary proceedings. Anne previously worked at the Office of Disciplinary Counsel of the Washington State Bar Association, eventually becoming Chief Disciplinary Counsel. She was a member of the WSBA's Special Committee for the Evaluation of the Rules of Professional Conduct that developed the revised RPCs adopted in 2006. She also served on the WSBA's Rules of Professional Conduct Committee from 2010-2012 and is currently a member of the WSBA's Committee on Professional Ethics. Anne is the author of the confidentiality chapter of the Washington Legal Ethics Deskbook. She graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School where she was an editor of the law review.

Judge Lori-Kay Smith

Judge Smith was appointed to the King County Superior Court bench on January 24, 2012, by Governor Christine Gregoire. She assumed the position previously occupied by Steven Gonzalez, who was appointed to the Washington State Supreme Court on January 1st of that year.

Judge Smith started her legal career with the King County Prosecuting Attorney's Office in its Family Support Division, which establishes paternity and establishes, modifies and enforces obligations to pay child support. She became a senior deputy prosecuting attorney and later was made the Managing Attorney of the Kent Family Support Division office responsible for these support enforcement cases. She also handled occasional civil commitment, welfare fraud, and felony drug trials during her more than 20 years with the PAO.

In 2006, Judge Smith was named a King County Superior Court Commissioner, where she presided over domestic violence protection order hearings; family-law motions; and support modification, non- parental custody matters, dependency cases and civil commitment trials. She also served as a judge pro tem in family law trials.

Judge Smith earned her bachelor's degree in criminal justice from Eastern Washington University before graduating from the University of Washington School of Law. She has been active in her community, volunteering as a YWCA Leaders in Progress Mentor, providing free legal help at the Angeline's Women's Shelter Legal Clinic, serving on the Washington Association of Prosecuting Attorney's Support Enforcement Project Best Practices committee and helping to develop the King County Bar Association Kinship Care Program. As a judicial officer she has presented at many CLE's and at the Washington State Guardian ad Litem training, as well as serving on various court committees including the King County Superior Court Executive Committee. She is now the Chief Unified Family Court Judge.

Marguerite (Maggie) Smith

Marguerite (Maggie) Smith, LLB Hons; JD, is the President of the Seattle law firm Flexx Law, PS. She is a member of the Bars of Washington State, Minnesota, District of Columbia, England and Wales. She has practiced family law for over 20 years. She is a frequent speaker both locally and internationally. Among the many topics she has covered are asset protection, including closely held business interests in divorce. She authored The New Standard, Marriage/Divorce, Protecting the Closely Held Business (Lulu Press) in addition to the USA-Washington State section of the Family Law, Jurisdictional Comparisons, European Lawyer Reference Series published by Thompson Reuters and has co-authored the International Law Chapter of the Washington State Bar Association Family Law Desk Book.

Michael M. Sperry

Michael M. Sperry graduated from Willamette University College of Law as a member of the Order of the Barrister. Mr. Sperry's practice focuses on Creditor-Debtor work including representation of debtors in out of court settlements, chapter 7 filings, chapter 13 filings, representing creditors in cases under various chapters of the Bankruptcy Code, and representing creditors' committees. Mr. Sperry has presented at several CLE programs for both the Washington State Bar Association and King County Bar Association on topics relating to Creditor-Debtor law, and was recently elected as an officer of the King County Bar Association's Bankruptcy Law Section. Mr. Sperry is licensed in Washington State Court as well as the Federal Courts for the Western and Eastern Districts of Washington.


General Registration - $160

Seattle University School of Law Alumni - $130