Who is eligible to apply for an Externship?
Students who have completed their first year of law school are eligible to enroll in a part-time externship for two (2), three (3), four (4), five (5), or six (6) credits. The externship and required seminar run throughout the semester, beginning in the first week of classes and ending the last day of scheduled classes.
Students who have completed 60 credit hours and are in the top 50% of their class are eligible to apply for a full-time externship with federal district court and federal and state appellate court judges. Many judges and justices do prefer the top 25%, however. Students are also eligible to apply for other “approved” full-time externships offered through the Externship Program. The externship and required seminar run throughout the semester, beginning in the first week of classes and ending during the last week of exams. A waiver process is available for students who are not in the top 50% and would like to participate in a full-time externship.
|Type of Externship||Number of Credits||Class Rank|
|Full-Time||60||Top 50% (Many sites require top 25%; some, top 10%; some, individual screening.)|
|Part-Time (2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 Credits)||Must complete first year||All Students Eligible|
Rule 9 Information
Several Externship Sponsors require (or prefer) that Student Externs be Rule 9 qualified. This qualification allows a student to practice law under the supervision of an attorney. The site supervisor must sign your application, not the Director of the Externship Program. For instructions on how to apply, visit the WSBA website here. Note: The Washington State Bar Association does not waive Rule 9 application fees for externships. Externs, not sponsoring agencies, are responsible for paying any Rule 9 fees.
Do I have to accept the first offer I am made?
When applying to placements through the Externship Program, yes. Because we have so many applications pending at once, and to give your colleagues a shot at the maximum number of externship opportunities, we ask you to take the first offer you are made. All of our sites have been vetted and are high quality, so you can't go wrong. Sites also spend a considerable amount of time reviewing applications and expect that you are serious about working with them when submitting an application.
The Sponsor has complete discretion in choosing its Externs. That said, we always have more Sponsors than we have students applying, so don't talk yourself out of it. Your chances are quite good!
How many credits can I get for an Externship?
For a Part Time Externship you can receive between 2-6 credits, which includes a 1 credit seminar.
For a Full Time Externship you may take 15 credits, which includes a 3 credit seminar (8 credits, including 2 for the seminar, if Summer semester).
How many Externships can I do?
You can do more than one externship so long as you do not exceed your number of experiential credits (15 or 21 credits). Students may NOT do Externships and Clinics at the same time. Please be advised that a new policy adopted in August 2016 prohibits students from taking the same seminar twice. For example, students cannot do two criminal externships for credit. This change is to help students learn a broad array of skills in a variety of settings in both externships and clinical courses.
Just as you cannot take the same class twice, you cannot do two externships of similar substance. For example, if you have done one judicial externship at a trial court and you’d like to do another judicial externship, your second one must be with an appellate court. Similarly, if you do one externship with the misdemeanor division of a county prosecutor’s office, you could not do a second externship with the misdemeanor division of a different county prosecutor. These experiences are too similar in substance. If you have questions about whether your proposed externships satisfy this requirement, please contact the Externship Program.
How many hours do I have to work each week on site?
During Fall and Spring semesters, (2 credits = 5 hours/week; 3 credits = 8 hrs/wk; 4 credits = 11 hrs/wk; 5 credits = 14 hrs/wk; 6 credits = 17 hrs/wk; 15 credits = 39hrs/wk).
During the shorter Summer semester, (2 credits = 9 hours/week; 3 credits = 14hrs/wk; 4 credits = 19 hrs/wk; 5 credits = 24 hrs/wk; 6 credits = 29 hrs/wk). Please note that for Full-Time Externships during the Summer you must work 39 hrs/wk and will receive 8 credits.
Note: During holiday weeks, externs do not have to make up the hours missed at their site. Please also remember that excusable holidays are determined by the sponsoring agency, not by Seattle University.
Note: You may not front-load your hours. For example, you may not work all of your required externship hours during the first six weeks of the semester and take the rest of the time off. Part-time externs must work through the last day of classes. Full-time externs must work through the first week final exams for the semester.
Can I get paid for Externship work?
Seattle University does not allow compensation for externship work.
What are the program’s objectives?
- To select sites in courts, government agencies, and non-governmental legal organizations that will provide excellent experiential learning experiences for the externs and will promote social justice concepts;
- To select supervisors at those sites who have a passion for their work, have a desire to mentor students, have the ability to teach students, and have at least three years of practice experience;
- To work with the site supervisors to ensure structured work assignments for the students at sites, good supervision on a regular basis, an adequate place for the students to work, and a generally positive working environment that fosters professionalism;
- To increase the externs’ ability to take control of their own learning by assessing their skills in a range of areas, by targeting certain skills for improvement, and by working with both the site supervisor and faculty supervisor to enhance learning and to measure progress;
- To provide additional experiences, away from an extern’s individual site, that will ease the transition to practice and foster professionalism;
- To provide structured opportunities for the externs to reflect on their experiences and;
- To increase the externs’ competence and confidence in their ability to practice law.
How does the program achieve the goals and objectives?
Placement at Externship Sites: Students apply to approved externship sites that are found in the Externship Sponsors Database.
Seminars: Students, whether enrolled in full-time or part-time externships, must take a concurrent seminar. The seminar courses include additional practical experiences such as presentations by court officials followed by tours of court facilities; presentations by faculty and site supervisors on various practice-related topics; and multimedia presentations by students. Students are usually assigned short readings appropriate for the sessions. Students will assess their skills/values in a number of areas and then measure their progress in improving their abilities throughout the semester.
Journaling: Students must submit several reflective journal entries throughout the semester. ion.
How are Externships graded?
For Part-Time Externships: one credit of the total externship credits is graded with a letter grade, which is based on participation in the Externship Seminar, factoring in the site supervisor’s evaluation of the student’s work product, work ethic, and general professionalism. The remaining credits are graded Pass/Fail and based on successful completion of work for the Externship Sponsor.
For Full--Time Externships: Three of the total externship credits are graded with a letter grade, which is based on participation in the Externship Seminar, factoring in the site supervisor’s evaluation of the student’s work product, work ethic, and general professionalism. The remaining credits are graded Pass/Fail and based on successful completion of work for the Externship Sponsor. In the Summer, two of the eight credits are graded with a letter grade, and the remaining six credits are graded Pass/Fail and based on successful completion of work for the Externship Sponsor. Full-time externs are required to write a research paper, in addition to attending the weekly seminar.
What are the Externship Seminars and when are they scheduled?
The Externship Seminars include: Criminal Law, Civil Law, In-house/Government, and Judicial. During your externship semester, you must attend the seminar that matches up with the area in which you are working.
NOTE: Fall and Spring intensives for Criminal Law, Civil Law, In-house/Government, and Judicial meet the first Friday of the semester, then weekly at the times below. Summer intensives take place the first Friday before the semester begins.
- Judicial Seminar: Mondays - 6:00 - 7:15pm (Fall/Spring), 6:00 - 7:30pm (Summer)
- Criminal Seminar: Tuesdays - 4:00 - 5:15pm (Fall/Spring), 4:00 - 5:30pm (Summer)
- Civil and In-House/Government Seminars: 4:00 - 5:15pm (Fall/Spring), 4:00 - 5:30pm (Summer)
Class times for the Legislative Seminar and International Seminar will be determined based on the availability of the professor and student. The Legislative Seminar is only offered during spring semester.
If you have a class conflict with the seminar, you must deal with it as you would another class conflict. Please contact the Externship Office if you run into any problems with your schedule.
Does the time in the seminar count towards my required on-site Externship hours per week?
On those weeks that you attend your externship seminar, it is already deducted from the total hour requirements.
Where can I do an Externship?
Only public agencies and entities, public or private non-profit organizations, or the courts (at the level of superior court judge or above) may be certified as Externship Sponsors. The only exception to this rule involves the pilot Intellectual Property Externship program, which utilizes established partnerships with in-house legal counsel at several private corporations.
Where do I find a list of Externship Sponsors?
All approved Sponsoring Agencies are listed online. You may search by either the location of the externship or by the type of externship you are interested in. Updated externship information will also be distributed weekly or bi-weekly in our newsletters.
Can I do an Externship at a place that is not listed on the Externship Programs homepage (i.e. not an approved site)?
Generally, no. Students must apply for Externships at the sites that have already been developed and approved by the law school. Only in exceptional circumstances will a new Externship site be approved. Criteria considered for such approval include:
- Whether there are already existing Externship opportunities of comparable substance and experience;
- Whether the proposed Externship site is appropriate for on-going Externship placements or is a project-specific or otherwise finite placement;
- Whether the student has provided the Externship Staff with sufficient lead time to fully review and investigate the proposal. Generally, this review will include: consultation with the proposed supervising attorney, a visit to the site, assessment of the substance of the proposed work, and a written agreement with the supervising attorney regarding expectations and requirements for on-site supervision and mentoring.
Students who are interested in participating in an externship at a site that is not currently listed in the Externship Sponsors Database must contact Externship Program staff at least four weeks from the beginning of the semester prior to the externship in order to allow sufficient time to determine whether this site can be approved for externship credits. Please note that externship classes tend to fill up quickly, so it is best to contact the Externship Program as soon as possible.
What if I want to do an Externship somewhere outside of the Puget Sound region?
Proposals for out-of-area Externships will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. In general, out-of-area proposals will be approved only if they fulfill ABA accreditation standards and offer a unique learning experience that cannot be obtained within the Puget Sound region. The Externship Director must approve any proposal for an out-of-area Externship. With that said, we currently have many approved national and international sites where you could pursue an externship. If you wish to propose a new site, please contact the Externship Director as soon as possible before your intended externship semester. In terms of planning for an out-of-area externship, there is no such thing as starting too early.
I've been working/volunteering at this great legal agency and would love to make it into an Externship. Can I do that?
No. Faculty policies do not allow students to do Externships at places where they have previously worked or volunteered. The only exception would be if the proposed externship involved doing substantially different work (e.g. with the same agency but working on a new set of skills or in an entirely different division). The Externship Director must approve any such exception.
Can I do an Externship at a private law firm? Even if it is pro bono work?
No, students may not do Externships at private law firms. Additionally, students may not work at a firm while doing a Judicial Externship.
Where can I do a Full Time Externship?
Students are eligible to apply for a full-time externship with federal district courts and federal and state appellate court judges or other "approved" full-time placements.
If you want to find out whether a placement can be approved for full-time credit, please contact the Externship Director for approval.
Can I do a Clinic and an Externship at the same time?
Students may not do an Externship and a Clinic at the same time.
What if I have additional questions not answered on the Web site?
If you have any questions not answered or addressed on the externship website, please refer to the Seattle University School of Law Student Handbook or talk with the Externship Office for additional information or clarification.
Can I still do an Externship even if I've missed the Externship Registration deadline?
If you are interested in doing an externship, you must inform the Externship Office by the semester deadline. Specific dates for these deadlines will be listed in our newsletters. Please note that even though deadlines for externships are in place, it is best to apply as soon as possible. Externship classes tend to fill up quickly. Once an Externship seminar is filled to capacity, students will be unable to register for that specific seminar but may submit applications to different placements if another seminar is still open. Your choices in externship placements decrease significantly if do not begin the application process early. Please be aware that many externship placements have their own internal deadline.